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I wrote this big long entry about how I haven't been able to write any fic in awhile, beyond a few crappy paragraphs here and there, but it was boring and whiny even to me.  I was rereading for typos before posting and I was like, shit, this is the epitome of no1curr.

So instead I am going to ask a fandom-nonspecific question, in the hope that the answers will help me figure something else out.  And, you know, be interesting to read besides.

What is your all-time favorite ship?  Why?  And what was the moment/scene/episode that made you feel really invested in that relationship?  And if you can't narrow it down to one, just write about two or three.  (But not, like, ten.  Commit, you wishy-washy girl.)  (Unless you're a boy.)  (Do any boys even read this?)

It occurs to me that I should get the ball rolling.  As much as I've greatly loved other ships since, and as much as it's hard to really be objective about the whole thing, I'd have to say that ship that meant the most to me in general - though certainly not right at this moment - would be Mulder and Scully from The X-Files.  It wasn't my first ship (that would be Link and Zelda, tyvm), but XF in general was a show that aired at a critical time in my life.  I was 11 when it started, and 20 when it ended.  So many of my dramatic sensibilities were formed by that show - what kind of stories I enjoy, how I like them being told, my expectations as far as quality goes, my love of shows that can experiment and defy their own premise, and so on.  But most of all, the relationship between Mulder and Scully was an important one for me.  I prefer ships that start off with a foundation of respect, and trust, and actual friendship.  I'll never be that interested in two people meeting who seem to immediately fall in love without even knowing each other, for instance.  Or relationships that start with lust and proceed from there.

Most importantly, I think, Mulder/Scully for me is all about the absolute equality in the relationship.  For every time he saves her from danger, she saves him right back.  Where one is strong, the other is weak, and they hold each other up.  They might have disagreements but they don't belittle each other, or treat each other cruelly.  That's what I want to see in a ship, even if it means foregoing manufactured ship drama.  (Actually, especially if it means forgoing any of that.)  And the first time I really knew that I needed them to be together would have been the Duane Berry arc - Scully is abducted and Mulder cannot save her, and has to hope against ever increasing odds that she'll return to him alive.  It was the first time that there was the sense that they didn't just respect each other and depend on each other, and maybe be attracted to each other - Mulder was lost without her.  He could not function.  And to need someone else like that is pretty heady stuff.

Date: 2011-01-15 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cath822.livejournal.com
Def Mulder and Scully, for all the reasons you mentioned, as well as the fact that they complemented each other so well. Also, they're pretty. It's hard to say when it started, because I didn't start watching until S4 or so and then proceeded to watch it out of order. (I still haven't seen every episode. Blasphemy!)

Sara and Grissom on CSI were probably my only other significant ship, in terms of participating in the fan community and reading fanfic and whatnot. I liked them because they were both very similar people (smart, reserved, obsessed with work) who brought out unexpected qualities in each other, and, just like Mulder and Scully, their relationship was subtle, gradual, and only had a payoff a few times a season. :)

I'm also a Roslin/Adama shipper, but I never really did anything about it beyond squealing and flailing like a little girl.

Date: 2011-01-15 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kungfuwaynewho.livejournal.com
Also, they're pretty.

How could I have forgotten this very important thing! I mean, it's not like TV is covered with uglies, but there are plenty of objectively attractive people who don't really do anything for me. But Mulder and Scully definitely brought the pretty.

Heh, I still haven't watched the majority of S9, and I have never, and probably will never, watch Travelers, LOL.

Sara and Grissom, definitely. I'd actually say out of all my other ships, they were the most like M/S.

And of course Roslin/Adama. Of course.

Date: 2011-01-15 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hollywobbles.livejournal.com
Cath, I had no clue you were so into CSI. Have you even mentioned that/them on your blog?

Date: 2011-01-16 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cath822.livejournal.com
I might have mentioned it occasionally; it's a procedural, so it's not really one of those shows that provokes a lot of discussion or debate, and my actual fan participation in the show was more of a college thing. I kept watching it until last year, when it joined the category of "hour-long dramas that I don't have time for anymore and that aren't as good as they used to be" (SVU, Numb3rs, Heroes, etc.). I might go back and catch up on it at some point.

Date: 2011-01-16 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kungfuwaynewho.livejournal.com
Yeah, it was really the one-two punch of NBC comedies and Fringe on Thursdays that completely ended me watching CSI. I'm sure it would have been different had I owned a DVR, but I am so over taping things, and I really have to love a show to sit and watch it on my computer. But now the library has it on DVD, so I might catch up this summer, when most shows are off the air.

The only year I was really like invested was the miniature killer year - I was reading Your Tax Dollars at Work on a regular basis. That was also when everyone was afraid they were going to kill Sara off. Good times, good times. (Weren't we like metaphorically clutching each other when we were watching that season premiere, with her pinned under that car?)

Date: 2011-01-16 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cath822.livejournal.com
Oh, I did love the miniature killer storyline, and I kept watching even after that. It's only this current season that I haven't seen. I really did think they were going to kill Sara off.

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