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What are people's thoughts on Real Person Fiction?  Have you read any of it?  Does the very idea of RPF squick you out?  Do you think less of a writer who tries her hand at RPF?  Is there some RPF pairing you would want to read or even write but don't?  Do you have an unabashed love of RPF (and don't care who frakking knows)?

I'm not saying yet why I'm asking!  But I am curious.

Date: 2011-02-25 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kungfuwaynewho.livejournal.com
Now I feel like you're trying to change my mind.

I already said I wasn't. I thought I was having an interesting conversation about writing and the different forms it can take, and what draws different authors to different aspects of storytelling.

Evidently, we were not having the same conversation, and you are not happy with the way the thread has gone. I think you could have expressed that in a more courteous way, without resorting to sarcasm and what is, frankly, a pretty damned rude tone.

And I am not saying, nor have I actually said at all during this conversation, that one type of writing is better than another.

My apologies, then, for misunderstanding you. You said a couple times that you thought it was a shame that people didn't try original fic. You said: I got back into writing after a long absence thanks to fic, so I get how it gets people's feet wet..., which I took to mean that you saw fic as something beginning writers did, or writers who had become rusty, and they worked in fic until they graduated to "real" writing. You have since corrected me. This is not how you feel. I did not come to my earlier interpretation of your comments maliciously, or to try and provoke an argument, as you've implied in your most recent comment.

I still can't figure out what I said that made you yell at me like this, or speak to me in such a condescending manner.

Date: 2011-02-25 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alto2.livejournal.com
I already said I wasn't.

I'm aware of that, but what I was also aware of was that your tone had changed into something that no longer felt that way. I said "I feel" because that's how I felt--it's not a statement of fact, or an accusation, just how I felt at that moment in the conversation.

I thought I was having an interesting conversation about writing and the different forms it can take, and what draws different authors to different aspects of storytelling.

So did I, and then I got three comments in quick succession that all seemed to be beating me over the head for something I didn't say, which I find more than a little frustrating. I took as much care as I possibly could to be clear about what I was trying to say the whole way through this discussion because I've been in conversations like this before and I know how they tend to go if you're the odd bird who doesn't like fic. The fact that I had done that and clearly still wasn't being heard was exasperating.

I don't think I yelled at you, but I felt very much like you were yelling at me, especially since it sure looked like your earlier comment about not trying to change my mind had gone by the wayside. Lecturing me in detail about how fic works was more than a little condescending, honestly (and is a big part of what gave me the impression that you were trying to change my mind), particularly since I'd already said I've written fic. I did my best to remain calm in my reply. I used italics for emphasis because it seemed quite clear to me that what I was trying to say was not getting through. If you read that as yelling, I'm sorry, but considering that important parts of what I'd said seemed to have been missed, I didn't see an alternative.

I also didn't imply that you'd tried to provoke an argument--I said that we were arguing, and for no good reason because I didn't disagree with you. That's all. I'm sorry if it came across otherwise, but that's all I was saying.

I've never believed there's any malice here. I still don't, and I don't think I've said otherwise. I do believe there's definitely been a very unfortunate misunderstanding, and I hope we've cleared that up now.

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